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Post by coolcowgirl on Mar 26, 2006 2:28:06 GMT -5
I missed it of course... but she sure is a nice looking filly...
I have always loved the friesian breed... my husband and I have been considering buying a stallion.. but will have to save money they are not cheap... The friesian breed has been my favorite breed since I was 7 years old, they are just gorgious animals and cross well with just about any breed.. I have been looking for a stallion to cross with our smokey black kentucky mountain mare next year... I have a few in mind but will make my mind up on who to cross her with next spring.. I have done alot of research over the years on the breed and am still learning new things all the time about the breed..
Robin
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Post by pam on Mar 26, 2006 9:55:46 GMT -5
Good for you, Robin, for researching Friesians before buying or chosing a stallion to breed with. I did it all backwards, buying a Friesian first then trying to figure it all out I call it my mid-life crisis. When you are looking for a stallion to breed your mare to my suggestion would be the strength of the stallions motherline....look for mares that were ster or model. Also, the genetic strength for your foal would be best if the stallion you choose has an approved stallion as the sire. No doubt Friesians are more expensive, but many of the smaller breeders are willing to work with buyers. The cheapest way is to buy a foal is "in utero". You have from conception to weanling to complete payment.
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Post by Debbie on Mar 26, 2006 11:25:03 GMT -5
Good for you Robin. Once you own a Friesian you will wonder why you ever considered another breed. Sounds like you aren't quite ready to buy your Friesian stallion yet. Well I have a colt that is not quite ready to be a stallion yet. And, unfortunately for me, he is for sale. He is out of a first premie star mare and the approved stallion Sape 381. Not many Sape foals here in the US since he is in the Netherlands and does not ship frozen semen. Friesian prices go up as the foals grow up. So it may be that your most economical way to get a stallion is to think yearling colt!!
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Post by Kat on Mar 26, 2006 17:15:37 GMT -5
My friend might also be able to point you in a good direction (although it sounds like the pros certainly have it covered ). She adores her three Friesian mares. I'd love to meet them one day, along with the rest of her critters. Friesians are amazing creatures. If I wasn't so sure that I will get a Morgan when I'm finally able to get a horse, I'd definitely go for a Friesian. In the meantime, I'll enjoy the lovely eye candy.
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Post by coolcowgirl on Mar 27, 2006 2:02:13 GMT -5
I was telling my husband when I look at stallions or colts ones with full mother lines are what I want.. We was thinking of buying a colt also much more cheaper that way.. but I know I will need coaching on the right way to bring a friesian colt up and all about the keurings.. not sure where those are held at here in Kentucky or if we have to do much traveling for that.. Traveling would be hard for us right now but could be worked in if we had to.. we have put alot of thought into it and are hopeing when we are ready that we have everything covered on what we need to do to.. I don't know much about dressage myself but am willing to learn.. I am use to my gaited horses lol we trail ride alot and show occasionally.. I still have alot to learn about the breed yet so any advice is welcome.. like with all horses I learn new things everyday.. lol thanks so much for all your help..
Robin
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Post by pam on Mar 27, 2006 7:30:01 GMT -5
Robin, you are WAAAY ahead of most people if you understand full motherline. Colts are almost always less expensive than fillys. By way of explanation for others, keuring translates to "inspection". The Friesians are "inspected" by judges at various times during their lives. Horses are presented in halter and are judged 60% on movement and 40% on conformation. The horses are attempting to show well and gain "rank" in the Friesian world. This judging can be especially important for mares as the higher the rank of the mare the more her foals are worth. A "full" motherline indicates 4 or more generations of high ranking mares. Judges from Holland come to North America the last 2 weeks of September for keuring. Locations for keurings vary each year according to the Friesian population. The will be 20 or so keurings held around the country. Last year there were keurings in Tennessee and Virginia. Dates and locations will be posted on the official (Dutch) registery website www.fhana.com. My Friesians show in saddle seat.....not dressage. Soon as I can figure out how to post a photo I'll send a saddle seat pic. As you can tell, I love talking about Friesians and I am very much enjoying our conversation. Pam
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Post by Kat on Mar 27, 2006 21:06:45 GMT -5
Wow! Thanks for sharing the info! I knew inspections were important, but never quite understood the whole thing.
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Post by coolcowgirl on Mar 28, 2006 2:26:05 GMT -5
Now saddleseat would be more up my alley than dressage.. I learned over time from talking to people and research about the motherline being so important.. I know some about keurings and why their so important to the rankings of the breed.. just didn't know if it was a must but I am learning more that to have a good stallion or mare it is... They are 0 friesians in our area here... closest friesian I know of is about a 4 hour drive or more... very few people in this area know much about them but some know of them. I want one for many reasons the breed has always been my dream horse.. I think one would be very popular in this area for breeding especially crossbreeding, they do compliment so many different breeds when crossed right.. I would like to get into showing some also.. and to just get out and hit the trails talk about getting noticed around here.. lol I just think they are so breath takeing to watch or even look at.. sadly I have never seen a friesian in person.. I do have many videos on them and of course online.. but to actually see one in person I haven't had the pleasure yet.. We was going to take the 4 hour trip in Jan to look at a stallion we thought about breeding Raven to and I was sooooo excited like a kid it was silly lol but we had so much going on here we decided to put it off till next year.. I have had people tell me they had to learn to ride pretty much all over again on a friesian.. don't know how true that is.. I was also curious I know of their gaits but to trail ride are they comfortable on trails, I know I'm use to the natural gaited horses we raise here which are smooth.. didn't know how much of a change I would be looking at there.. lol I enjoy talking about horses also.. and to learn new things I really enjoy very much.. thanks so much for all your help and I sure hope to hear from you again real soon... ;D
Debbie I would love to see a picture of the colt you have for sale..
Robin
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Post by pam on Mar 29, 2006 18:04:33 GMT -5
Keuring for Friesians is definitely encouraged, but not mandated. Mare owners would always like to have their mare make Preferant (4 or more offspring who make star), so they always encourage keuring the offspring. I can't tell you much from personal experience about riding them. That might sound strange, but I've only had horses since 2000 and since I am on the assisted living side of age 50, I don't ride. My trainer, who trains mostly saddlebreds, says that a Friesian has more muscles in their neck than a ASB has in it's whole body. Their gaits are much bigger and longer than most horses. The trot is the most natural gait for a Friesian with the walk being the most difficult. Historically, Friesians have been racing trotters. Don't know where you are in Kentucky, but if you want to let me know by private message then I will check my Friesian membership directory to see if I can find a Friesian owner anywhere close to youso you can visit. Also, I always love to have visitors here. Since I can never bring myself to sell any, my population is 12 and 2 babies expected.
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Post by coolcowgirl on Mar 29, 2006 22:51:40 GMT -5
Thanks I replied to the e-mail.. I have currently own 10 right now and I just bought a palomino mare the other day.. she is due to foal any day now so I left her there to foal seeing as I thought it best not to travel with her this close to foaling.. after she foals her and the foal will come home.. she is bred to a palomino stallion so she should have a cremello or palomino foal.. she is a kentucky mountain mare.. I will have the foal for sale if you know of anyone that might be interested hehe.. I don't often sell myself but plan on haveing 3 to 4 foals a year to sell starting next year.. I enjoy rideing myself we ride alot here.. usually mostly on weekends.. I love your web site by the way, very beautiful horses you have.. I can't wait for your mares to foal.. I will be watching.. we have the one mare due this year she is due april 17th she has no bag yet but she is a maiden mare.. I will have her on cam soon.. right now I have our border collie on cam.. she is due to have pups soon and some of my friends wanted to watch her..lol so I gave in and put her on cam for them. I been thinking of going to visit a farm in Elizabethtown KY.. they own a friesian stallion named Zephan.. he is out of Warn 335 and his dam is Ursula.. they cross him with Kentucky mountian mares and they say he crosses very well with them.. they also have a foal there out of a kentucky mountain mare and him I would like to see.. If I can find the time to I may head that way one weekend.. We are located in Eastern KY here.. I didn't know if you have visited my web site or not.. I think I have my location there..
Robin
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Post by Kat on Mar 29, 2006 23:09:53 GMT -5
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Post by coolcowgirl on Mar 30, 2006 22:54:55 GMT -5
thanks Kat I already had their website but never thought about posting it..
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Post by Kat on Mar 30, 2006 23:48:24 GMT -5
I find it's useful for those of us who are out of the loop, particularly if the horse in question is the sire of one of the foals here.
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