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Post by crazyhorse on May 31, 2006 21:14:07 GMT -5
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Post by oakwood on May 31, 2006 22:31:39 GMT -5
Things happen. Racing is a big risk and each rider takes the risk when putting their horses on the track. Going that fast I'm certain it is hard to tell where you are in a group of 10 horses. Hopefully it was an accident.
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Post by h2opony on May 31, 2006 22:54:01 GMT -5
Looking back at the tapes, it looks to me like one of those freak accidents, i recorded in on TiVo and set it to the slowest motion possible. There was definately contact. But i think we need to pay respect to these athletes and at least spell their names right. Brother Derek is only a horse, and he loves to run, accidents happen especially in racing everyday. Its an unfortunate situation but there is nothing we can do to change it
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Post by devotee on Jun 1, 2006 0:14:20 GMT -5
Yes. This story has been out for a couple of days, and Barbaro's connections are downplaying it, probably because they do not want an unjustified public outcry against Brother Derek. Laura Hillenbrand has an interesting op/ed column on "How We Failed Barbaro" (not sure of the exact title) in the current Bloodhorse.com. She argues that horseracing needs to be made less risky. (I suppose we could say the same thing about pastures, but I am ambivalent about racing, to be sure.)
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Post by Ruffian122 on Jun 1, 2006 3:21:04 GMT -5
I hope you're kidding? It wasn't the horses fault. Accidents happen. Personally, I still believe Edgar Prado when he says that it didn't happen that way. |
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Post by asmithdq on Jun 1, 2006 9:05:49 GMT -5
I know, you can not blame a horse. I was a freak thing that happened. We need not start rummer, we need only to keep praying for Barbaro. Please don't post thing that are not 100% fact. They are still looking st the replays and have not come to a conclusion. Also it is very disappointing that the starter of this post would blame a horse.
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Post by devotee on Jun 1, 2006 10:03:05 GMT -5
Nobody (least of all a horse!) is to blame for Barbaro's injury. Nevertheless, it is very important to discover its cause, if possible, so that whatever caused his breakdown can be prevented for other horses in the future.
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Post by asmithdq on Jun 1, 2006 11:11:08 GMT -5
Nobody (least of all a horse!) is to blame for Barbaro's injury. Nevertheless, it is very important to discover its cause, if possible, so that whatever caused his breakdown can be prevented for other horses in the future. I agree 100% with you, and they should find out what happened. |
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Post by lesliew on Jun 1, 2006 15:03:59 GMT -5
I agree with devotee and asmithdq! Think about it.. you have a field of 6, 8, 10 horses ALL hurtling at the speed of 40 mph to the same point! Accidents are GOING to happen no matter how much precaution you take, everyone makes mistakes. You can't blame the horse for doing what it was trained to do, which is get to that finish line. Barbaro's owners are down playing it because it was simply an accident, and being that we are all HUMAN, we make our mistakes too. I am certain that Brother Derek's jockey falls under the category of being human as well. In a pack of ten horses, that is forty different legs ALL flying in different directions... thats a lot more than I could ever dream of keeping track of. I believe every one of those jockies did an amazing job of even being able to get out of the way when Barbaro did go down and they all deserve their thank yous. It truly could have been so much worse.
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Post by crazyhorse on Jun 1, 2006 16:33:26 GMT -5
but how do u know it was a freek thing the jocky could of pulled brother of derek up. ofcorse the jocky was to set on winning and dindtrealise it. so thers no blaming it on the horse. its blaming the jocky to not of had pulled him up. a jocky shouldnt just think of himself and his horse he should think of everybody else on the race track to. so really all the acidents are from the jockys stupidity of trying to win. but of corse every jocky once to win so that wy racing is soooooooooooo dangrus
(sorry for the miss spelling, gramer, and puncuration.)
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Post by saddlebredlover on Jun 1, 2006 17:40:10 GMT -5
JJ, jockeys are part of a brotherhood. True, they each want to win when they are on the track, but not at the expense of seeing another jockey or horse get hurt. They don't just care about themselves, they care about the horses that they ride. Nobody wants to see one of these beautiful creatures get injured, but accidents happen. In fact, their quick thinking saves more injury to the horses in a lot of cases, including with Barbaro. So, please quit blaming the jockeys for all the accidents that happen and insulting them by calling them stupid and greedy. Really, you don't know much about them and racing.
Take for example, say, bicycle racing. If someone hits a small rock in the middle of the road that causes them to fall and 8 riders behind him go down with him, whose fault is it? IT'S JUST AN ACCIDENT!! Unfortunate, yes, but life is full of unfortunate accidents. He didn't aim for the rock, trying to take out the other riders, it just happened.
While this is an interesting revelation, Barbaro's people are downplaying it, and really... so what if it did happen that way? What can be done about it now? It happened, it was an accident, Barbaro is doing very well.... What more do you want?? A public flogging? It was just an accident!! Let's just leave it at that. Period.
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Post by wendi (calif) on Jun 1, 2006 18:14:59 GMT -5
Crazyhorse you are Young and very Passionate. With that said You need to THINK before you post and blame. I RACE horses My Horses are Harness Race Horses(The carts) Mine have been In accidents and I can NOT BLAME another horse for that...VERY Tight quarters makes racing a dangerous sport...NO DRIVER and NO JOCKEY will RISK their life to cause an accident,Think about that. So Blaming a Horse or a Jockey is way Out of line. Do you Own a horse?  Or are you HOPING to someday. yOu have a lot to learn and a LOT of time to learn it. |
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Post by crazyhorse on Jun 1, 2006 19:56:55 GMT -5
ya i guse your all right and that ive ben a big jerk. o well guse life must go on. my rant is over  . |
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Post by twnpnds on Jun 2, 2006 3:40:57 GMT -5
The horse's name is Brother Derek, NOT Brother of Derek, crazyhorse. Listen, I'm glad that you obviously care about Barbabro's welfare. Horse racing can be kind of hard to understand. There are a lot of rules and breaking these rules carry some stiff penalties. Malicious acts on a racetrack are not taken lightly. A jockey can be fined, suspended, banned from a track, or lose his racing license. It's hard enough for most jockeys to find horses to ride. When one finally gets a great horse such as Barbaro or Brother Derek to ride it's an honor that they do not want to lose. Not only because of the glory but also it may mean they will have many more good horses to ride. A steady job and income. Jockeys love horses or they wouldn't be there. And none of them like when any horse or jockey gets hurt bad during a race. Really takes the "fun" out of the race for them. What happened to Barbaro was an accident, period. I have to give a lot of credit to his owners from not making a big deal out of it. Such kind and considerate people. They want Brother Derek and his owners to have a chance too. I'm not berating you crazyhorse. Just trying to help you understand horse racing a little. There's lots of good books on racing, jockeys, and the horses. Also a lot of web sites. Check them out.  |
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Post by crazyhorse on Jun 2, 2006 9:13:33 GMT -5
ok thanks alot i understand much better know . |
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