Meghan
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Post by Meghan on Mar 23, 2006 11:15:56 GMT -5
9 1/2 months and was huge! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Debbie on Mar 23, 2006 16:53:02 GMT -5
Shereena, please call me and come over for a play day. Eveline is looking good. Her bag is getting full and it is very hard! She is beginning to get resless - especially after she eats. I saw her side do a major kick last night. And she is trying to destroy her tail pushing on the rough oak walls in her stall. Too bad. I love a nice tail. I'd love to have you over. Pam has my number. Or email me.
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Kat
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Post by Kat on Mar 23, 2006 18:35:54 GMT -5
Kat, do you believe in the theory that Morgans are descended from Friesians? I've heard that the Morgan stallion was crossed with "an old Dutch mare" that some say was a Friesian. Are your friends Friesians preg? Thanks for watching.....Pam I've heard that theory but I don't really know if it's true. I've also heard that Justin Morgan/Figure was sired by a Welshie (a Cob, I think). I don't think we'll ever know! Unless we dig up the old boy and do some sort of genetics testing on him... but I think we should just let him rest in peace. He's certainly done his part for the breed. My friend's Friesians aren't pregnant but if you like, I can ask if she wouldn't mind if I posted a link for pics.
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pam
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Post by pam on Mar 24, 2006 5:22:01 GMT -5
Kat, I always like to see Friesians....send a link if possible.
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Kat
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Post by Kat on Mar 24, 2006 5:24:58 GMT -5
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pam
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Post by pam on Mar 24, 2006 6:20:25 GMT -5
I know the Signature web site and I also enjoy www.friesianexchange.comBy way of explanation: at age 3 stallions are eligible to be tested for breeding approval. They are first judged in hand and scores are based on movement and conformation. The stallions that pass this first judging then must go for 70 days of testing during which they will receive scores for the strength of their gaits, their riding and driving abilities, semen quality is tested, xrays are done, etc, etc,. If they make this cut, then they are given limited breeding approval. When their first foal crop reaches age 3, at least 30 of the offspring are tested to determine if the stallion is passing on good quality. If the offspring are good, then the stallion becomes fully approved for breeding.....if not, the stallion is no longer allowed to breed. In the end, only 5-7 stallions per year are approved for breeding. Pam
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Kat
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Post by Kat on Mar 24, 2006 7:13:15 GMT -5
Only 5-7 stallions per year? Wow! I never realized it was so strict. Although it does ensure that the best of the best get to breed and pass on their genes.
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pam
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Post by pam on Mar 24, 2006 7:33:37 GMT -5
You are right about the best stallions breeding.....flip side is a limited gene pool, but the numbers are increasing. Friesians almost became extinct in the 1930's when there were only 3 purebred stallions and 150 mares alive. All Friesians today are descended from one of those three stallions and therefore are pretty closely related. Breeders have to be careful about stallion selection. There are about 80 stallions with breeding approval. 20 or so in the US and most of the rest are in Holland.
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Kat
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Post by Kat on Mar 24, 2006 7:40:01 GMT -5
Yeah, the limited gene pool could pose a problem. Cheetahs suffer from that sort of issue (people think that there was a bottleneck effect and now they lack a lot of genetic diversity).
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Jen
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Post by Jen on Mar 24, 2006 10:16:46 GMT -5
the huge down side to that is some stallions started over seas and breed to any said mare, not ster, then the come over to the US, and produce amazing ofspring. But of course the ones out of so-so mares are not good enough, so these stallions get screwed to put it nicely I know the Signature web site and I also enjoy www.friesianexchange.comBy way of explanation: at age 3 stallions are eligible to be tested for breeding approval. They are first judged in hand and scores are based on movement and conformation. The stallions that pass this first judging then must go for 70 days of testing during which they will receive scores for the strength of their gaits, their riding and driving abilities, semen quality is tested, xrays are done, etc, etc,. If they make this cut, then they are given limited breeding approval. When their first foal crop reaches age 3, at least 30 of the offspring are tested to determine if the stallion is passing on good quality. If the offspring are good, then the stallion becomes fully approved for breeding.....if not, the stallion is no longer allowed to breed. In the end, only 5-7 stallions per year are approved for breeding. Pam
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pam
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Post by pam on Mar 24, 2006 11:24:05 GMT -5
I can guess the stallion you are referring to and you are right that he produced some very good quality offspring in the US, I've seen them. In an ideal world, there would be stallion testing done in North America.
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Kat
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Post by Kat on Mar 24, 2006 21:02:25 GMT -5
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SMQHS
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Post by SMQHS on Mar 25, 2006 10:45:20 GMT -5
Hello to you all! It should be a lively board with all of you together. It also sounds like a fun time for you!
Do you have websites so we can virtually visit your farm and horses? Friesians are gorgeous. At our expo the studs are always soooo well behaved and calm! They are a joy to have there!
Best wishes with your foaling and breeding season!
Shar
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Kat
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Post by Kat on Mar 26, 2006 0:32:45 GMT -5
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pam
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Post by pam on Mar 26, 2006 10:01:07 GMT -5
Thanks, Kat for posting the websites. I got a little behind here. I'm Pam at Shady Nook, btw.
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